Custom Scenario Choices

 idoit


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Do Nothing


Do not touch the community.

VMap/VCOM Approach


Try to change attitudes through tournaments and hosting new maps.

Ladder Tweaks


Small changes to ladders, including CBA/Hero.

Extreme Change


Removing ratings. Removing CBA ratings.

Seperating Communities


Taking smaller communities out of the main lobby and growing a self sufficient community built on old principles.
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 idoit


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 6:54 am
Simple. Choose your preferred option and explain why.
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 23RaidingParty


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Edited 20 November 2014 - 7:34 am by 23RaidingParty
play this video while reading the thread
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 [DZ]RockTheHouse


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 8:03 am
i dont think this is a important topic as all is going well atm :S
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 [Eot_]Marvel__


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 8:35 am
Extreme change.
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 [Eot_]Slash


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 8:57 am
Extreme Change is what we need.
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 [DZ]_RaFTaaR


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 9:20 am
Let the Vcom Cs try what they are trying to. Until they give up, no change is required.
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 [Eot_]Slash


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:14 am
All we do is hosting tournaments in VCOM. Will VCOM provide the change which the CS community required? Answer is up to you to decide. The future of CS depends on the small number of players who admire bloods and all the other maps except CBA/Hero. If we get a new lobby there'll be a bunch of people who'll have fun and the other lobby will be filled with the players who love points and cba and hero.

I guess giving a new lobby also will do some change to the community as well.
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 [XceL]Adrift


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:23 am
I wonder what would happen if you had 2 lobbies - 1 for CBA+Hero and 1 for Custom Scenarios except you could set a cap on the number of people who could be inside the CBA+Hero Lobby - say 150 people max and you get kicked if you're afk for 10 minutes. Would the other x00 people join the Custom Scenario lobby and play anything?
You could reset the rating for the CS lobby every week for the first 8 weeks then have it set up normally - this gives a chance for noobs to see what their skill level is for the first 8 weeks without the drawback of having a 14xx rating after they finally know how to play a map decently. Anyone who joins after the 8 week period could have the option to reset their rating 3 times (but they keep the number of games played to prevent them from being booted for 0 games).
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 nhoobish


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:41 am
Constant rating resets would create a ladder, where the ranking system wouldn't be accurate anymore and pointhoarders would get even more points they get now.
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 idoit


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:43 am
I wonder what would happen if you had 2 lobbies - 1 for CBA+Hero and 1 for Custom Scenarios except you could set a cap on the number of people who could be inside the CBA+Hero Lobby - say 150 people max and you get kicked if you're afk for 10 minutes. Would the other x00 people join the Custom Scenario lobby and play anything?
You could reset the rating for the CS lobby every week for the first 8 weeks then have it set up normally - this gives a chance for noobs to see what their skill level is for the first 8 weeks without the drawback of having a 14xx rating after they finally know how to play a map decently. Anyone who joins after the 8 week period could have the option to reset their rating 3 times (but they keep the number of games played to prevent them from being booted for 0 games).

Actually something I always thought would be cool is a rating min and max.

Example: 1550 is as low as you can go and 2k is as high as you can go.
Drew suggested this a year ago for CBA, to stop the 16x bashing for 1 point lamers.
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 [UB]Coat_of_Arms


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:57 am
VMap/VCOM approach+ladder tweaks.

After playing for a long time the same map (without getting bored), people don't want the change (even the only-Hero players never play CBA, and vice-versa). So we have to be VERY interesting to make them change

VMap should get more members and start playing new maps. In my view most CBAers tried at least once different maps and got thrown away because they weren't good (first game with only CBA skill level can be a bit hard in bloods) and the acid community doesn't forgive anything.
When VMap hosted maps in the past, I think we had around 10 full games.day when promoters were playing. If some of VCOM tournament hosts could help us (at least fill rooms), it would be great.

As a long time strategy: VCOM announces a map-tournament, VMap hosts ONLY that map for a week or 2, and then the tournament happens. Could do wonders.
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 [XceL]Adrift


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:59 am
nhoobish wrote:
Constant rating resets would create a ladder, where the ranking system wouldn't be accurate anymore and pointhoarders would get even more points they get now.

Actually the opposite is true - the ladders would be more accurate as ratings reflect current playing strength instead of taking into account past playing strength. For beginners especially playing strength will change very quickly. Point hoarders will only benefit substationally if they abuse with another top player but there is an easy fix for this too - Barry's suggestion: put a cap - if you get 18xx you cannot reset is one example
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 [_A]Faravahar


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:04 am
Just don't remove ratings from anything because of a vocal minority on the forum asking for it.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:04 am
Just don't remove ratings from anything because of a vocal minority on the forum asking for it.
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